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	<title>Comments on: how to stream your music into Second Life &#8212; six software source clients compared</title>
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		<title>By: Bail Bonds Los Angeles</title>
		<link>http://metaversemusician.com/blog/how-to-stream-your-music-into-second-life-six-software-source-clients-compared/comment-page-1/#comment-38235</link>
		<dc:creator>Bail Bonds Los Angeles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 08:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Bail Bonds Los Angeles...&lt;/strong&gt;

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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://metaversemusician.com/blog/how-to-stream-your-music-into-second-life-six-software-source-clients-compared/comment-page-1/#comment-16388</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2011 19:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for the info Joe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the info Joe</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Bear</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2011 19:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David. 

Well, this post is focused upon streaming source clients. This is the part that gets your audio shipped up to a streaming server, so the guests at your venue can pick up your stream, by means of the Parcel Media URL. The fact that WinAmp has the Shoutcast plugin streaming source client, rather than a standalone streaming source client, kind of muddies the picture. However, the music/audio creation application and the streaming source client are functionally two different things.

You are likely bumping up against a limitation of WinAmp as a music/audio creation application. WinAmp was originally designed merely as a means of a computer owner to listen to mp3&#039;s on that computer. The original vision likely did not include any sort of DJing. Accordingly, it handles a single audio source at a time, with no ability to mix in (e.g.) a mic signal alongside the music.

What you are needing is a more full-featured music/audio creation application. There are many from which to choose, which I&#039;ll cover in a bit. However, I should point out that your current solution of WinAmp with the Shoutcast plugin is both a music/audio creation application (WinAmp) with an integrated streaming source client (Shoutcast plugin). Accordingly, you&#039;ll need to address both these requirements.

Any of the standalone streaming source clients listed above should work for you. As mentioned, the job of the streaming source client is to take the pre-mixed audio generated by your music/audio creation application, encode it into mp3, and send it to the streaming server up in the cloud.  Butt would work fine for this. However, your music/audio creation application needs to generate a pre-mixed stereo signal -- music and mic -- with which to feed butt.

There are many configurations that would allow you to do this. One way would be to employ a hardware mixer external to your computer. You could continue to use WinAmp (but not use the Shoutcast plugin with it). 
- Run a cable from the headphone/speaker out on your computer to a stereo input on the mixer. 
- Feed your external microphone to another channel on the mixer. 
- Then run a cable from the output of the mixer to the line in on your computer. 
- Lastly, configure butt to get its input from the computer&#039;s line in.

In this manner, butt would be seeing the pre-mixed audio from WinAmp and the mic, and sending it on to the happy listeners in SL. You could pick up a small mixer from craigslist or a pawn shop suitable for the job in the $10 - $20 range. Add another couple dollars for cables, and you&#039;d be in business.

As I said, this is merely one scenario that would work. There are many other options.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David. </p>
<p>Well, this post is focused upon streaming source clients. This is the part that gets your audio shipped up to a streaming server, so the guests at your venue can pick up your stream, by means of the Parcel Media URL. The fact that WinAmp has the Shoutcast plugin streaming source client, rather than a standalone streaming source client, kind of muddies the picture. However, the music/audio creation application and the streaming source client are functionally two different things.</p>
<p>You are likely bumping up against a limitation of WinAmp as a music/audio creation application. WinAmp was originally designed merely as a means of a computer owner to listen to mp3&#8242;s on that computer. The original vision likely did not include any sort of DJing. Accordingly, it handles a single audio source at a time, with no ability to mix in (e.g.) a mic signal alongside the music.</p>
<p>What you are needing is a more full-featured music/audio creation application. There are many from which to choose, which I&#8217;ll cover in a bit. However, I should point out that your current solution of WinAmp with the Shoutcast plugin is both a music/audio creation application (WinAmp) with an integrated streaming source client (Shoutcast plugin). Accordingly, you&#8217;ll need to address both these requirements.</p>
<p>Any of the standalone streaming source clients listed above should work for you. As mentioned, the job of the streaming source client is to take the pre-mixed audio generated by your music/audio creation application, encode it into mp3, and send it to the streaming server up in the cloud.  Butt would work fine for this. However, your music/audio creation application needs to generate a pre-mixed stereo signal &#8212; music and mic &#8212; with which to feed butt.</p>
<p>There are many configurations that would allow you to do this. One way would be to employ a hardware mixer external to your computer. You could continue to use WinAmp (but not use the Shoutcast plugin with it).<br />
- Run a cable from the headphone/speaker out on your computer to a stereo input on the mixer.<br />
- Feed your external microphone to another channel on the mixer.<br />
- Then run a cable from the output of the mixer to the line in on your computer.<br />
- Lastly, configure butt to get its input from the computer&#8217;s line in.</p>
<p>In this manner, butt would be seeing the pre-mixed audio from WinAmp and the mic, and sending it on to the happy listeners in SL. You could pick up a small mixer from craigslist or a pawn shop suitable for the job in the $10 &#8211; $20 range. Add another couple dollars for cables, and you&#8217;d be in business.</p>
<p>As I said, this is merely one scenario that would work. There are many other options.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2011 23:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use Winamp at the moment. But can&#039;t talk on it and SAM4 is not something I want to spend the money on right now.Do any of the above programs let you voice i know alot of clubs in second life want there DJ&#039;s to talk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use Winamp at the moment. But can&#8217;t talk on it and SAM4 is not something I want to spend the money on right now.Do any of the above programs let you voice i know alot of clubs in second life want there DJ&#8217;s to talk.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Bear</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 19:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Wolfear - thanks for your thoughts.

I&#039;ve not done much with EdCast. If there&#039;s a subversion repository freely available, that&#039;s great for the community as a whole. Whether or not it gets picked up in active development, it would likely be a great learning tool for coders, if nothing else.

Since adopting Live as my streaming DAW, I&#039;ve had to switch streaming clients. I ended up with BUTT. Currently, I do most work on OS X. I know Jack is available for OS X, but I&#039;ve not tried it. However, I can tell you that BUTT sees Soundflower without any issues. Or rather, Soundflower sees BUTT. Soundflower is another &#039;virtual patch cable&#039; like Jack, written by cycling74.

If I get some time, I&#039;ll fire up a Linux/Jack/BUTT install, and let you know how it goes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Wolfear &#8211; thanks for your thoughts.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve not done much with EdCast. If there&#8217;s a subversion repository freely available, that&#8217;s great for the community as a whole. Whether or not it gets picked up in active development, it would likely be a great learning tool for coders, if nothing else.</p>
<p>Since adopting Live as my streaming DAW, I&#8217;ve had to switch streaming clients. I ended up with BUTT. Currently, I do most work on OS X. I know Jack is available for OS X, but I&#8217;ve not tried it. However, I can tell you that BUTT sees Soundflower without any issues. Or rather, Soundflower sees BUTT. Soundflower is another &#8216;virtual patch cable&#8217; like Jack, written by cycling74.</p>
<p>If I get some time, I&#8217;ll fire up a Linux/Jack/BUTT install, and let you know how it goes.</p>
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		<title>By: Wolfear</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wolfear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Realize this is older post, but edcast is dead for all practical purposes. 
The creator has left SVN available for those who want to compile it but no further development is likely to happen.
I found your site whilst looking for an edcast replacement (on a linux system) to use with the Rivendell radio system.
&quot;Butt&quot; looked promising but there is no mention of jackd compatibility or what linux sound systems are supported.

I would also mention, for those who want to stream to Second Life on Linux, to look into IDJC, the Internet DJ Console.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Realize this is older post, but edcast is dead for all practical purposes.<br />
The creator has left SVN available for those who want to compile it but no further development is likely to happen.<br />
I found your site whilst looking for an edcast replacement (on a linux system) to use with the Rivendell radio system.<br />
&#8220;Butt&#8221; looked promising but there is no mention of jackd compatibility or what linux sound systems are supported.</p>
<p>I would also mention, for those who want to stream to Second Life on Linux, to look into IDJC, the Internet DJ Console.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Bear</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 05:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the delay, Michael - but I see you&#039;ve located a suitable download.

BUTT comes in flavors for Win, Linux, and Mac OS X.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the delay, Michael &#8211; but I see you&#8217;ve located a suitable download.</p>
<p>BUTT comes in flavors for Win, Linux, and Mac OS X.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Bear</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 05:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael - thanks for the updated link. How do you like the program so far?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael &#8211; thanks for the updated link. How do you like the program so far?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael McDonell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael McDonell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2010 14:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Updating BUTT download for Windows: 

http://sourceforge.net/projects/butt/files/butt/butt-0.1.12/butt-0.1.12-win32.exe/download

The creator of the program sent me this link, got it installed:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Updating BUTT download for Windows: </p>
<p><a href="http://sourceforge.net/projects/butt/files/butt/butt-0.1.12/butt-0.1.12-win32.exe/download" rel="nofollow">http://sourceforge.net/projects/butt/files/butt/butt-0.1.12/butt-0.1.12-win32.exe/download</a></p>
<p>The creator of the program sent me this link, got it installed:)</p>
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		<title>By: Michael McDonell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael McDonell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Dec 2010 15:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice article, thanks a lot. I have a question about the &#039;BUTT&#039; program, it seems perfect for what I want to do, but the download seems to be in a Linux form, it is a sh. file- I don&#039;t know much about these files, and it will not open or install on my WinXP os. It says it runs on windows, and I know people using it, it there a trick to installing it? 
Thanks for the great info, Michael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article, thanks a lot. I have a question about the &#8216;BUTT&#8217; program, it seems perfect for what I want to do, but the download seems to be in a Linux form, it is a sh. file- I don&#8217;t know much about these files, and it will not open or install on my WinXP os. It says it runs on windows, and I know people using it, it there a trick to installing it?<br />
Thanks for the great info, Michael</p>
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